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Could You Ride Safely With Headphones? | The GCN Show Ep. 255


(snaps) – Ow. (snaps) – From beautiful
Yellowstone National Park, welcome to the GCN Show. – Welcome to the GCN Show. – This week we poke the hornet’s nest and ask is it safe to
cycle with headphones in? – We’ve also got some
fantastic cycling skills on display at the Weird
World Championships, with cycle ball and artistic cycling. – And of course, we’ve got all of your regular favourites,
the best tech of the week, more questionably perhaps
hack forward-slash bodge. – And you’ll have noticed
that Lasty is back as well. Where have you been mate? – You don’t wanna know. (dramatic music) (beep) (dramatic music) – This week in the world of cycling, we learned that the
cyclist’s fuel of choice, we’re not talking about carbohydrates, we are of course talking about coffee, is actually beneficial to your health. That’s right, up to
three cups a day can help to reduce your risk of heart disease. – Diabetes. – Liver disease. – Dementia. – And some cancers. – [Si] Yeah, and remember
that if you drink coffee and ride your bike, you can, of course, have your cake and eat it as well. – [Tom] Win, win. – Is that, is that a
ginger cake, that one? – We also learned that if you want to find the most skillful cyclists on the planet, you have to look way beyond Peter Sagan. That’s right, indoor
cycling is where it’s at. – You mean like Zoest? (upbeat music) – We also learned last week that riding with headphones is a controversial topic. Now we mentioned it briefly in the show, and the comments section totally lit up. Even more so on the
subject of whether or not you should emulate Chris Froome, or even whether or not it should be called the full Froomey at all. – More on that later, but
we thought we should try and tackle the issue of headphones
use while cycling head on. Some cyclists absolutely love it. – Yep. – Some cyclists hate it. – Yep.
– Others then, think it’s tantamount to suicide. – Exactly, now we should
probably start by saying actually that in some places, riding with headphones in
is actually just illegal. So several states in the
U.S. ban it outright, and then others stipulate you
can only have one headphone in whilst riding, so presumably
that would be a beat, as opposed to beats, right Tom? – (laughing) Yeah, I suppose it would, Si. But, from the start of this, there’s actually no evidence that riding with headphones in increases
your risk of accidents. Now this might just be because
there isn’t a lot of evidence out there, but could the danger also be that we’re putting our perception of common sense ahead of the facts. – Right, it’s a good question isn’t it. So let’s look for some facts. Firstly, I think it’s worth saying that there are actually
no restrictions placed on people who are deaf or
have hearing impairments, as to whether or not they can actually drive cars or ride bikes. So, is it therefore safe to assume that actually, there is no danger to a loss of hearing at all. – Well, that does sound a fair
assumption on the face of it, but I think that someone who lives with a hearing impairment day-to-day, I think that’s a totally
different situation to someone who might be
distracted by very loud music and blocking out outside sounds for an hour of their commute. – That’s true, but you’d have to think, wouldn’t you, that if
there was a genuine risk to a lack of hearing,
there would be some kind of restriction in place, so
maybe actually it’s not about the sound itself but maybe
about what you’re listening to, what type of music is coming
through your headphones. – Well, we can actually look into that, ’cause there is a lot
of research out there about whether music
helps you to concentrate. – There is, in fact,
one paper in particular, in The Neuroscientist, – [Tom] Which is one of my favourites. – Yeah, I thought you
subscribed to that one. Anyway, this particular paper said that we have two different
attention systems, okay. So, we’ve got a conscience
one, which we use for focusing on specific
tasks like operating a camera. Right, John? John. John. Thanks. And, also an unconscious one,
so where we actually rely on our subconscious to alert
us of anything significant that might be going on,
like a presenter talking. – I’m not sure that’s really significant. – No, okay, fair enough. That’s a stretch, but you know. – The researchers did go on to point out that music is actually really good for filtering out your
unconscious attention, so a good thing if you’re
sat in your open plan office trying to filter out the ambient noise, but perhaps a less good thing if you’re cycling home
past cars and trucks. – Well, it’s true, but
is there anything to say actually that we need that
kind of subconscious hearing that was probably helpful
when we were cavemen, but actually is it helpful
to a hipster riding a bike? Even though, funny enough, actually, the two can look quite similar. – What’s wrong with beards? – Well, there is a question
about whether cycling is the subject of your focus,
or whether you kind of cycle automatically, so you’d be
using your subconscious as well. – Yes, you mean that if
you focus on cycling, then music can actually
help you to concentrate, whereas if you cycle on auto-pilot, then actually music
can well be robbing you of those important kind
of subconscious senses. That’s interesting actually, isn’t it? Very interesting. There’s also a real personal
element to this as well. Again, research has shown that
the way people react to music is very different. Some people find that it
helps them to concentrate, whereas other people actually
find it a massive distraction. – Yeah, and if you’re listening to music, volume is, of course, a factor. There is a reason that many car stereos lower their volume when you are reversing. – Yeah, and also the type of music that you listen to as well. So, whilst Mozart allegedly
makes you smarter, I think there is no denying that ambient techno is
great for concentration. – Low volume, ambient techno
to make cycling more fun. – There we go, research has shown. (ambient techno) – Now Tom, there is
inevitably a curve ball here. So according to a recent article in the Journal of Otolaryngology. – Otolaryngology, yes one of my… No, you lost me, what was it? – So, apparently it’s ear,
nose and throat medicine. So, according to this article, people have done a load of research into noise levels whilst commuting. Now, it focused on public transport, but it also had private transport as well. And it showed that cyclists are exposed to higher noise levels than
people who drive to work, which is kind of common sense, I guess, but also weirdly, compared to pedestrians. – That is weird. I was not expecting that. – No, exactly and in
fact, the noise levels that cyclists experience are so high that the authors of the
article actually suggest that cyclists would benefit
from hearing protection. – That is strange, that is very strange. – Yeah, exactly, and
they did went on to say that actually perhaps the answer would be segregated bike lanes on quieter roads, rather than actually cycling
around with ear plugs. But, it definitely makes you think. – Yeah, I think we’d all love
more segregated bike lanes, but it’s interesting to
note that the maximum volume observed in the study was 123 decibels, which you can compare
it to the maximum volume of the iPhone headphones
is around 100 decibels. – Yeah, so I guess then that shows that even if you had headphones in actually you’d still hear the
loud noises anyway, right? – Yeah, you’d definitely be
hearing the loudest of them. – Yeah, okay then. So, statistically we can
find no reason why headphones makes cycling more dangerous. You can kind of imagine why
the debate gets so polarised, when there seems to be this
personal element to it, so your personal response
to music, for example. – Yeah definitely, and also how attuned your subconscious system is when cycling. – Yeah, okay. Let’s get some handy
hints, and this being GCN, there’s got to be some tips going on. So what about if you
want to listen to music, but you don’t want headphones in, what can you do then? – You can try bone-conducting headphones. There might be a slight sound
quality trade-off there. You can try a helmet, like a Sena helmet, with external speakers, and
if you want to go all out, – Bike-mounted boomboxes, oh yes. We featured them on the
show a couple of weeks back. This seems like the perfect opportunity to bring them back. Genius. – So cool. (upbeat music) (rock music) (beat-boxing) – Bike-mounted boomboxes
has to be the old version of the high-vis jacket. – Yeah, they do, don’t they? Or, you could just take it
right up to 11 with this. The bike piano. (piano music) – Okay, Tom, seriously now, do you ride with headphones in? – I no longer ride with headphones in, and I can’t see myself starting
to ride with headphones in in the future, but a few years ago, I would wear headphones on
long rides from time to time. – Yeah, I never have done
it actually, partly ’cause I just don’t like listening
to music when I ride. I find that it makes time go slower. When I was actually
counting down the hours, then that was a problem. And also, I don’t like
having my sound cut-off. Maybe I’m still a caveman at heart. But what about you guys? We want to know what you think about the issue of headphones. Very simply, we’re going to have a vote. Yes to headphones or no to headphones. – Click up there. – Is it up there? – It’s going to be up there. – It’s up there, yes. (trumpet music) (boing noise) – It’s time for the cycling shorts. – Let’s start the cycling shorts with news of a cycling jersey. – That’s right, because
there’s been a seismic shift in pro-cycling kit stakes,
and that’s because Team Sky is swapping their
trademark black for white. – Now, they have dabbled
with white kit in the past, most notably the Tour de France this year, but I think the important question is, what about the shorts? – That’s right. Tom, they’re looking black,
they’re looking black. Thank goodness for that. Let’s hope that they stay that way, because white shorts… They’re just not that nice, are they? And just ask Mathieu van
der Poel, for example, he’s having to where them at the moment. – You know, I’d be wearing
them in a muddy race. It’s better than just wearing
them in a wet road race. – I don’t, well, yeah I
suppose there’s an element of camouflage there, isn’t
there, if your butt cracked. – (laughs) Sticking indirectly with Team Sky, and following our
suggestions the other week, or at least possibly
following our suggestions the other week, new UCI president, David Lappartient has floated the idea of a budget cut for men’s cycling teams. – He has. Now, he’s also said that actually it would probably be
difficult to implement, but I think it’s good that
this idea is on the table. The concept behind it is
that mega-budget teams would be prevented from effectively buying up all the talent available and therefore being
able to strangle races. – Yeah, it’s definitely a
very interesting proposition. Onto cycling safety now, there’s
some good news from the UK, which is following, or
not directly following our show last week, but despite
our show the other week, about registration plates on bikes. There is no intention for
that to become law in the UK. – We can’t claim that that was us, can we? – I’m afraid not, but the bad news is that despite that, there is one place in the UK where it is gonna become a rule. – Yes, so there is a school in Surrey which is a county just outside of London, where the Headmaster is actually
gonna make it compulsory for any pupil that
wants to cycle to school to actually have a number
plate on their bike. The idea being that they will be able to be tracked to make sure
they are cycling responsibly, wearing a helmet, wearing high-vis, all that kind of shenanigans. – I don’t disagree with
cycling responsibly, and helping people to
cycle more responsibly is an admirable goal,
but I can’t help feeling that there is an overstep here in they’re creating legislation where there doesn’t need to be any. – Yeah, absolutely,
and also the Headmaster maybe needs a reminder that
actually physical inactivity in young people is a strong
predictor of adulthood obesity, and all the many problems
that come with that. And actually, weirdly,
there was some research that came out here in the
UK, small piece of research, so I think it can be at least
taken with a pinch of salt, but anyway it showed that actually there was a negative effect on accidents from wearing high-vis,
i.e. that it kind of made things worse, which
is a bit weird isn’t it? But anyway, there you go. It was science, apparently. – That does sound very strange. Onto some very positive news now. Last week we showed you the
Detroit Delray belladrum, the recently discovered, or recently rediscovered Detroit Delray belladrum. – And very well mowed, as
well, I think you remember. – And plenty of you
chipped in in the comments to let us know there was
actually a cycler cross race happening there this very
weekend, and here it is. Before we leave cycling
shorts for the week, a quick update on where we got to with two very controversial
positions last week. The Froomey, and the yoo-in – That’s right, very mixed bag of comments left under the video. Some of you saying that, well you reacted with absolute fear at the thought that some
people might be doing that out in the open road. Others of you have very
successfully tried to emulate them. Now, this comment in particular, I did have a little chuckle from. It’s from SlowSchwinn. He said, my brother does the Froomey just about every ride with me. Drives me nuts. I give him plenty of room. The funny thing is that most of the time, while getting back on the saddle his knee knocks off his light. What a goober. Genius, there we go. SlowSchwinn’s brother, sort
it out mate, sort it out. – (laughing) I like that a lot. This one though shed some new light on it, and it’s from Lightning Lambert. Lightning says, hey guys, really need to put something straight
about the Froome tuck. It’s real name is the Tim tuck after my teammate who
first came up with it. I then started doing it, and only the two of us could do it at that point. We were racing in Hawaii at the time. I hit a top speed of 76 miles per hour on the Big Island while in the tuck. This all started back in 1982. – Crikey.
– Hit the brakes. When I do the tuck today
and someone always says, hey you’re doing the Froome tuck, I always tell them that we were doing the tuck before Froome was born. Thanks for a great job, Lightning Lambert. – There we go, maybe this could get us out of a bit of a situation, because you see every time we talk about the full-Froomey, people always point out in the comments, rightly so, that actually
Sagan did it first, and then Cover Konkowski
did it before him, and that Mathieu Maoris
did it before that, but now, according to Lightning Lambert, his teammate Tim did it first, and so maybe the answer is it’s
actually just the Tim tuck. It will hereby be known on GCN
as the Tim tuck from now on. – Timmy tuck? – Done. (ambient techno) A quick update on World Bicycle
Relief week here on GCN. We’ve been utterly overwhelmed
by the response so far. You have generously
donated enough money to buy 67 buffalo bikes, which is already over half of the total
that we raised last year, which is absolutely
bonkers, and brilliant. And bear in mind, we haven’t even released any of our special World
Bicycle Relief videos yet. – Incredibly generous
stuff, but this week is when we’re going to have our big push. And today, of all days, is Giving Tuesday, so it’s a really good
time to start thinking about any donations that
you might want to make. To donate to World Bicycle Relief, there is a link down in the description, and keep your eyes on the
channel throughout the week when we’ll have all four of Dan’s videos that he made with World Bicycle Relief in Zambia on the channel. – Yeah, and this time of year as well, thanks to generous support from partners of World Bicycle Relief. Any donation that is made
will be matched one-to-one, so it is doubly important,
definitely the right time. (ambient techno) – Donhue Cycles which you might remember from founder Tom Donhue’s
land speed record on a bicycle attempt a few years back have released their latest frame and its a gravel, or cross-bike. – Yeah, I really like this one, mate. So, it’s handmade in steel, and it’s reportedly the first frame to feature a 3D printed steel lug, which you can see around
the seating cluster there. It’s available in two guises, a cycler cross-guise, or a gravel-guise. Apparently the difference is
subtle tweaks to the geometry. – Which I think is a very good thing. Because although the
terrain that you might ride a gravel bike and a cross
bike on is pretty similar, their uses are so different. – I wonder how different
they’d feel to ride actually. I wouldn’t mind giving that a go, just you know, like could
you tell the difference between a cross bike and a gravel bike. – Blind test, just you
know, tape it all out. No hint that it’s a gravel
bike or a cross bike. – Yeah, there we go. Right, Tom, if you’re
listening, you know what to do. Right, there’s also another
tech of the week worthy mention. This is from Schindelhauer,
their new Gustav city bike. Now it actually won a Euro
Bike gold award back in August. We actually caught a sneak
peek of it back in July when we visited the, I gotta say, achingly cool Schindelhauer HQ in Berlin. Possibly the coolest place
I’ve ever been ever, ever. Now the Gustav is kind of a
slightly reimagined city bike. It’s got 27.5 inch wheels,
internal hub gearing, and brilliantly, it’s got a
slightly lower price as well. – Very tenuously linked
to a Euro Bike gold award, one of my favourite custom
bikes of the winter, not of the year, but of the winter is Elliot Viviani’s bling gold track bike that he’s been using at the Gen6. – Yeah, very nice looking bike. – That thing sounds out very cool. – It does, right, one last gold thing. I just wanted to do a quick update about the John Canning
parafin waxed chain. Okay, so in the video that
we released on Monday, a couple of weeks back, I
was a little bit ambivalent about waxed chains but I’ve
put more kilometres on it, and I must say I’m really,
really growing to like it, okay. So, pretty average riding conditions here in the UK at the moment. The bike is filthy, but the
chain is still spotless. It’s still gold, which I don’t like, but it is spotless and I, actually, it doesn’t sound that bad at all. I’m thinking I quite like it, mate. (ambient techno) Racing news, this week it should probably be renamed,
actually, because most of the biggest competitions
weren’t racing at all. It was actually the Indoor Cycling World Championships in Austria. – First up was the bicycle
gymnastics, or artistic cycling. Now, evidently I’m not really going to know where to start with this one. – Not our area of expertise, is it Tom? – But Germany’s Melania Subpoena won the solo women’s category
on her first ever time competing at the event,
whereas in the four open class, Switzerland took the victory
for the second year in a row. – Yeah, and it wasn’t just artful cycling or bike gymnastics. Was that right? Yeah.
– Artful, artistic? – Yeah artistic cycling, yeah, it was also cycle ball, oh yes. And in that, Germany just edged out the home nation Austria in the finals. Brilliant. If you actually want to see anymore of the Indoor Cycling World Championships, then the UCI channel on
YouTube has got loads of the stuff, so well worth checking out. Now, the cyclocross season
also continues a pace. There was another round of the World Cup. This time a very muddy
Germany greeted the riders. Some were more enthusiastic than others, judging by some of the comments that were to be found on social media. – I loved it though, Si, or
I loved watching it at least. – Me too. – Has to be said that along
with a lot of running, there was a lot of crashes in the mud. – There were, but… Don’t worry guys, happens
to the best of us, crashing cyclocross, it’s just inevitable. – So I’m pausing now for
the clip of your crash. – No, no, there’ll be no clips now, mate. – Okay, okay.
– No clips, no. – Anyway… – [Announcer] Jokes. (man yells) – Oh no. He’s got it, he’s got it on camera. – (laughing) Matthew crashed. – In the women’s race,
Sanne Cant took victory with a supreme display of technical riding in very difficult conditions ahead of Helen Wyman and Katie Compton. – Yeah, and you’ll all be
pleased to hear as well, that Maud Kapteijns was back in action after a, well frankly,
severe case of the GCN curse. (mellow music) – And, evidently we were also pronouncing her first name wrong too,
so apologies for that Maud. – Yeah, very sorry,
first and surnames wrong. That’s bad even by our
standards, isn’t it? Now in the men’s event,
mud man Wout Van Aert took his first World Cup victory of the season, breaking the dominance
of Mathieu van der Poel in World Cups so far this season. It has to be said, van der
Poel did suffer a mechanical, but he didn’t manage to close the gap to Van Aert at all, even
though he did manage to salvage second place on the day. – Toon Aerts rounded
out the podium in third, and for me Si, it’s
going to be interesting to see if there’s now going
to be a shift of power in elite men’s cyclocross
from one Van to another Van. Van Aert has typically, or
at least in previous seasons, has held the edge in the running races, and in the muddier
races over van der Poel, and so far even you know, including a bit of van der
Poel’s mechanical misfortune, that’s been the case in 2017. – Yeah, as the weather turns, more muddy races, more Van Aert victories. – Mud man.
– Yeah. Also, can Sanne? – Can Sanne what? – Keep winning, or can’t she? (drum riff) Well one thing is for certain, Tom. We’ve got a wattage bazooka to award, and this week it goes to Wout Van Aert for taking his first World
Cup victory of the season, despite the mechanical
of Mathieu van der Poel. It has to be said, I think he
was in a league of his own, and well deserves this. (yelling) Wattage bazooka. (cannon firing) You though I’d forgotten, didn’t you? You did, yeah, admit it. – I did think you’d forgotten as well. – Yeah, never. – This week, the viewer
wattage bazooka goes to Jeremiah Sullivan who
took on the Dirty Dozen, a selection of really
awful hills in Pittsburgh on a heavy city highway. Well played Jeremiah. – Yeah, he said he managed
to get up 11 of them without putting a foot down,
which is bonkers-ly good. And then he said severe quad cramps had him struggling up the last two. – [Tom] I imagine they did.
– [Si] Yeah. Hey mate, do you fancy
having a go at that? – Do I have, yeah I’m
going to have to, aren’t I? – Thumbs up if you think Lasty should do the Pittsburgh Dirty Dozen. You’ve got a year to train,
mate, you’ll be fine. (panting) – This is what I thought was the top. (drill noise) – It’s time now for hack
forward-slash bodge of the week. Now, we’re going to start with a bit of a celebrity hack forward-slash bodge. Now this one, a slightly shaky photograph, clearly taken the morning
after a big night. Hey Dan. We can see bar ends mounted on bar ends, and then we look to another photograph. That’s right, cycling
celebrity Graham Obree. This is his town bike, brilliantly, he’s still rocking the Superman position banned by the UCI, but not
by the traffic authorities. There he is, what a legend of the sport. Graham Obree getting mega
arrow on his town bike. – Sticking with town bikes,
we got this very detailed, I don’t know if it’s a hack or bodge, but it’s from David Koothottil, who says, this is how
I commute to the office without carrying a backpack, and he sent me a little infographic. – [Si] I think that’s a hack, mate. The infographic’s a hack. – [Tom] I love the effort. – [Si] Commuting to
work without a backpack, with all that stuff on
it, that’s a hack too. – [Tom] Spare cash in his bar end, that’s backfired for me before. I had spare cash and I
dropped it down in my bar end, because I thought I was going to get dropped in a race in Belguim. And at the end of the season, when I went to give the
bike back to the team, I couldn’t get my 20 dollars out. – Aw, mate, that’s a bummer. I like the fact that he’s got a wrap in a steel bottle cut and new lid added. He’s got his lunch, like
a special bike lunch wrap. That’s genius. Well, fairplay, that’s definitely a hack. Right, we’ve got this one
from Dr. Love, brilliant. Although, not entirely
sure you sent us much here. Revolutionising bike
repair stands by, what? Hanging your bike off a door knob, and having to take a
pedal off in the process. – [Tom] ‘Cause then you can pedal it. – [Si] No, I know that. – [Tom] You can still pedal it, and like turn gears and stuff. – [Si] But he’s got to
take a pedal off, mate. That’s a bodge.
– [Tom] It’s a bodge. – [Si] Sorry Dr. Love,
that is a proper bodge. – [Tom] Sorry doctor. (both laugh) Pobg sent in this one. He just led with GCN hack,
put it right out there, and then said in fairness,
it was just to get me home. He said, I got caught
in the first real rain of the season in Dublin. – [Si] I love that. – [Tom] That’s a hack? – [Si] Yeah, absolutely, grade A hack. Do you know if those are
the disposable gloves that you get from petrol stations? What do you think he just
had those in his supply bag? – If those are the
disposable gloves you get from petrol stations, that
makes it even more of a hack for me, because that just shows the ingenuity and use of what’s available. – It’s flipping freaky looking
in that photo, as well. Isn’t it? There we go. Cracking hack there from Peter. This one, no I’m not feeling this one. No knee warmers, get some old socks and cut the toes off. That’s frankly revolting. I’m sorry, no I’m not having that. (boomerang sound) You’ve also either got really
skinny legs or massive socks. Lordy could wear them actually, but actually you probably could too. – We’d rather he didn’t. – Yeah, no I’m not feeling
that, that’s a bodge there. – Okay, thanks Phil. We got this one from Splashes of Plastic, who sent in, sorted out a
little printed 3D chain guard to stop my dirty chain messing up the car when I’m driving back from a ride. – [Si] I think that there’s a
lot of effort gone into that. – [Tom] Possibly too much for
the sort of thing it’s doing, but I think it’s cool nonetheless. – [Si] I think it’s really cool. A lot of people with access to 3D printers, doing some cool stuff. Fair play, that is another hack, that one. Do you know what it needs, Tom? What it needs is a chain keeper. – It does, I couldn’t
say it better myself. – Without a doubt, 100%
needs a chain keeper as well. – Dan Lloyd could not have
said it better himself. – [Si] Right then, lastly
we’ve got this one, which comes under that
heading of terrifying bodges. This is a pair of extra handle bars taped to a pair of normal handle bars, and the commenter who
was El Retardo 87 says I saw this today, they said they wanted to try flat bars for
a bit before swapping. Well, hopefully they get a chance to swap. And they’re not actually
critically injured. – [Tom] Right, you said
that it is terrifying, because just to correct
your intro slightly, the extra bars are in
fact attached to the bike, whereas the bars with all
of the controls on them are attached via toe straps, so, yeah. – [Si] Don’t try that at home. Ladies and gents, that’s a… – [Tom] Don’t even think about trying it. – Terrifying, no, but
do send in anymore hacks or bodges that you either create, that you make or that you find
or you spot around the world. Send them in to GCN
using the hashtag GCNHack on most forms of social media. (ambient techno) – We’ve got a fantastic
giveaway for you this week, because thanks to our sponsors Park Tool, we’ve got five sets of bike cleaning gear. So you get Park Tool’s chain cleaner, and you also get a Park Tool brush set, which is pretty much
essential for those of us in the northern hemisphere at the moment. And if you’re in the southern hemisphere, we’re jealous of you and you should probably clean your bike. Anyway, details on how to enter and the link are down in the description. – Everyone needs to
clean their bikes, Tom. (ambient techno) Caption competition time, now. We give you a funny photo,
you write in captions, we choose the best one. The winner gets a GCN
camelbak water bottle. Now first up, we’ve got
results of last week. We have you this photograph
of Alberto Contador. The winner, after much
searching through the comments, was this from Job Hermans. After being done with
cycling, El Pistolero has started shooting
things off his bucket list. (drum riff) – Cracking caption.
– Genius. – Deserved.
– Well done Job. – This week’s caption competition photo is of German cyclocross
champion, Marcello Niacin, at the bottom of a very muddy descent at a recent cyclocross race. – Yeah, should I give it a go? – You had a really good one
when we were practising . – Practise, see what you did there, Tom, fooling the viewers. – Matt Stevens made it look so easy in Seven Magnificent Ways
to Mount Your Bicycle. That’s poor isn’t it? – It is poor, you can definitely beat it. Comment below with your
caption competition entries. (ambient techno) – Before we wade in to what’s coming up on the GCN channel this week,
firstly a few choice comments that you left under last week’s videos. – Dan’s hair was causing
some serious controversy. We thought maybe it had been
a windy walk to the office. Austin James, however,
was a little less kind and made the point on this
Christmas gifts video. Austin said someone should have got Dan a comb or a hair brush. – (laughing) Well yeah, to be fair it wasn’t an unorthodox
hair style sported by Dan, but going back, if you pardon the pun, to his roots if you remember
Lordy’s hairstyle circa 2013. It’s not a million miles away. Fashion goes in cycles,
doesn’t it I think? So yeah, it does, seriously. No that wasn’t a pun either. Right, okay, moving
swiftly on to this one, under the power of
breakfast smoothie video, Haydn Reed said the restraint of this man, referring to Chef Hayden
Groves not to give the blender a burst when Simon goes in
for a sniff is unbelievable. Yes, I hadn’t even thought about that, but that would have been
bloody funny, wouldn’t it? Green goblin all over my
face, who would want that? – How was it working with a
professional as a co-presenter? – Well, remarkably smooth
actually, it has to be said. – Smoothie, yeah. – Oh, what, another one,
mate you’re on fire, come on. – Anyway, coming up on
the channel this week, on Wednesday we have got
winter commuting hacks, and Thursday as promised, it’s going to be one of our World
Bicycle Relief videos. And on Friday, it’s ask GCN anything. – Yeah, Saturday we are
back in the kitchen again. No smoothie all over my
face that time either. Does that sound dodgy? No it’s not dodgy. On Sunday, well we’ve got a
double-header for you actually. We were at the Zwift finals,
where one lucky person got to sign a pro-contract. We were there, so there’s
a video coming out, and also we’ve got the video behind that rather embarrassing cyclocross crash. Running versus riding, and GCN versus GTN. Make sure you check that one out. And Monday, we are back
in the maintenance set, with more maintenance Monday. – And on Tuesday. – Welcome to the GCN
show, Stockholm, Sweden. (rock music) – It’s time now for Extreme Corner. This week is a very special
preview of something that our mates at GNBN have got
coming up later in the week. It’s a man, not a fat man, but a man in a fat suit on a fat bike doing flips. (rock music) That was fat. (snaps) – Yeah, nice work Blake. Now if you were lucky
enough to get your hands on some of our limited
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their way to you this week. We did warn you that the Black Friday sale would end on the Monday afterwards, and indeed it did, but if
you head over to the GCN shop then there are still a
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those up in the description. We’re at the end of the video. If you haven’t subscribed
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100 Comments

  1. Don't forget to head over and donate to World Bicycle Relief here 🚲 http://gcn.eu/WBR8

  2. Caption contest: "I HATE having to turn around when I realize I've forgotten my lights!!!"

  3. Been thinking about buying ( Livall 2017 Smart Bike Bluetooth Helmet with built in speakers ) any one used them and are they any good and worth it ?

  4. caption: Cyclocross top tips: Always have some time for a quick mud bath, to keep your skin soft like a baby.

  5. Caption Competition: "That's the last time I take coaching advice from Simon Richardson"

  6. I wore them non-stop on daily commutes for 3 years and then damaged headphones and went without for a few days and haven't worn them since….not sure if any safer but does feel it…I went with the deaf argument aswell but hearing traffic behind you matters now I think

  7. Caption: The pain and frustration of realizing that not only has your left leg been taken off above the knee by your disc rotor, but that you'll have to go back to find it in the mud.

  8. I wonder if the the hi-viz decreases safety finding is related to the Volvo effect? (where Volvo drivers had more accidents as driving a safer car changed their behaviour).

  9. I think I would go ape$h17 if I came across someone with a bike boombox on my campus. Much less so with the bike piano

  10. I️ am a yes to headphones kind of guy but I’m a firm believer in group rides, I️ one in and one out and at a lower volume. I️ feel you should still be able to hear your surrounds but I️ like to semi block wind and listen to some soothing sounds

  11. Perhaps it's because I don't consider myself a "cyclist", merely just a dude riding a bike to stay in shape. But I will absolutely NOT ride without headphones. Regardless if it's illegal or not. I've done a couple of rides without them and hated every minute of it.

    Contrary to Si's sentiment, NOT having music seemed to make a 15mi ride feel like an eternity and bored the hell out of me. So much so, that I cut the ride short and went home. Music choice does make a huge difference, err at least for me. Ambient techno err whatever, would put me to sleep. Everything on my riding playlist is north of 200bpm and it helps keep me motivated and focused… of course I look like an idiot air drumming blast beats on my handlebars at stop lights, but then again I'm already wearing lycra… so…

    At the end of the day I think it should be left to personal preference. I've never had an issue riding with them and will continue to do so.

    If you don't ride with them, great, don't. But don't get on your high horse and start trying to make it a law either. I live in a low crime area and the cops here are bored enough already… they don't need a reason to start hassling people on bikes too.

  12. Could you please specify about the research that suggested that you are more likely to have an accident by wearing high viz? Should the police, ambulance, road workers stop wearing it? I know of a few people that were clipped because the driver didn't see them. Is this research sponsored by Castelli?

  13. Wind noise! That's why there are cat ears and windfree ear mufs to protect hearing. They reduce riding wind noise making you hearing more acute. I own a windfree and it reduces noise levels due to riding wind significantly. It messes with directional hearing though. So you have to take that into account.

  14. Beside traffic noise, I have to deal with wind noise which gets louder as I go faster or when the wind blow stronger. Compare that noise level to that when you're running and you will understand why the study suggest using ear protection. And cheap ear plugs don't work cause they catch the wind

  15. Long ride & earbuds in one ear. But I listen to audio books. Makes the time go faster and you can easily tune into an important sound from your environment says “hey, pay attention”

  16. I've ridden with headphones in for years, it's the only way I feel comfortable riding now, it eliminates earache from the wind as well. If I'm riding with a friend I will keep them in my ears but turned off.

  17. Let's start at the start. Headphones go over your head. Earphones go in your ears. You are speaking about earphones, not headphones.

  18. I listen to podcasts when riding solo; don’t see the difference between this and chatting with others during group rides

  19. Super ironic you two crazy mop heads would choose a comment about Dan Lloyd's hair styles. Seriously, Lasty's locks are especially out of control in this video. Can you say "Pot Calls the Kettle Black"?

  20. Well sometimes I put in earbuds for my daily commute here in India. The traffic is absolutely insane here and not a bike lane to be seen. I felt pretty nervous about the earbuds the first time I did it but now I don't think it really makes much of a difference except maybe I miss some of the car horns (and I'm not sure that's a bad thing). Anyway, haven't had a problem yet. The only time I had an accident I didn't have any in and it wouldn't have mattered anyway because a tuk-tuk ran over my front wheel. I gotta say it is a lot of fun to blare my "skiing" playlist and just fly through traffic. It's really the same as skiing with earbuds (if you haven't tried it you are in for a treat!)

  21. Caption competition: How many times must the ‘cross rider fly before he sleeps in the mud

  22. Caption: after a series of accidents, spectators have been asked not to tell jokes during the race.

  23. Caption: Matt Stevens made it look so easy in seven magnificent ways to mount your bicycle. #copycat

  24. I wear them every time I go out. With the wind, you can't hear anything anyway, so you might as well fill your ear with motivating music. And what's the difference from wearing earphones and being in a car with the radio on and the windows up? It pays to have your head on a swivel. Whether you hear them coming or not, sometimes they still run you over. When your time is up, it is up.

  25. I think lasty needs to come to Adelaide, Australia and complete the Adelaide dirty dozen in September…

  26. I put my headphones in when I leave the house but only turn the music on when I'm out of town. And I've started keeping it at a low volume to protect my hearing. I already cycle as if there's cars behind me, ie. carefully, so I don't see any extra danger on rural roads.

  27. Definitely no to headphones. It only takes 1 car/bike/obstacle once to possibly ruin your cycling forever. I'm not taking that chance… Great show boys!

  28. I think it also highly depends on the type of headphones. Apple headphones let in a large amount of sound where my Audio-Technica studio headphones do not.

  29. #askGCNanything Hi GCN can you please do some science.  All the video's I've seen about disk brakes compared to rim brakes the disks have been hydraulic.  And the rim brakes have either been callipers that are single mound and single pivot.  Or single mount and duel pivot.  There is no doubt that hydraulic disk brakes are good but I've never seen a test with a cheeper cable disk brake.  Can you please compare mechanical disk brakes to V brakes and direct duel mount brakes.  As not everyone can afford top of the range equipment or wants to spend that much on a winter bike.  I've been looking at winter bikes and worked out its roughly about £100 more to get the disk version of the same spec bike with mechanical disks.  I have these mechanical disks on my cross bike and don't like them.  But with all the banging on about how great disks are do I go for mechanical disks on my new winter / train bike if they don't work as well as the bikes I'm riding now?  Thanks Bev 🙂

  30. Simply an opinion doing it my way – music during cycling = Individual preferences rule. Pods in only when I'm solo riding. 1000s of miles experience w/ the headsets/pods heading towards master level. Relaxing, calming, energizing, spiritual. Keeps me from hearing random slurs my way which reduces my stress level. There are certain stretches on my ride, that have heavy traffic and a fair amount of road furniture, where I pause my tunes. Of note: I started w/ my carefully created cassettes playing on my SONY WALKMAN (thin) cassette player years ago. Now my iPod shuffle(perfect size) is safer and convenient to wear. I had a 10 year gap between riding and when I started up again I swore against wearing pods but it all seems so natural; and doing so does make for a sweet ride. I liken it to me also when chewing gum while riding-which is a new stress reducing device for me. TMI!-I know. I await the haters for the "anti-gumites"-lol. Lastly, 4 me all my playlists include at least 1 song from THE JAM whether I am riding in the country or IN THE CITY.

  31. Please ask Lastie to ease-off on the grimacing? In time will prematurely age his presently youthful fizzog.

  32. Rather than having a budget cap why not have a maximum of maybe 3 transfers over a certain amount

  33. first, thank you for adding the subtitles, for us who are not natives I just cant stress how important it is seriously

    pedestrians with headphone walking on the bike line are the problem, I ring and nothing I shout and nothing.. most of the time are old people, 50plus, listening to the radio I guess

    I ride with headphones in the city, pretty much always. These old headphones which dont go inside the ear but at at the same time fit under the helmet perfectly. I put a low volume so I can hear pretty much everything and only hear the music when I go through a park or somewhere quiet.

  34. I prefer to simply ride with a Bluetooth speaker mounted to my bars…. problem solved music and still can hear the cars around me… Better yet if I could afford them I would rather use those fancy bone conduction headphones.

  35. Nicky Hayden had earphones in his incident (his ipod was found on the spot), ok that that the dynamics principaly was that he did not stop at the give way, but still, i think one should try and lower the possibilities of accidents and try to keep focused of his surroundings.

  36. Caption Competition:
    I thought I'd try controlling the bars with my knees…I just wanted to beat the Vanderpoels!

  37. Lub you guys.  Humorous, intelligent, full of helpful hints, and damn entertaining.  First, my fav, big yes for ear phones; I hate riding without them.  I can hear everything, even tires.  Volume, depends but never full blast, not so much for hearing surrounding noises but because it hurts.  Max respect to GCN for their Buffalo bikes…are there Buffalos in the UK?  GCN=big hearts.  But you're the only site I need to use CC so I can understand what your saying…is that English…LOL.

  38. AHA…! Got it..! Those for and against headphones must be those who don't and do feel vulnerable on a bike. If you don't feel vulnerable you're probably 17 to 30. If you do, you're probably older, have kids etc. Note: there is a blip in mortality rates between 17 and 30. The risk-taking era, the aggressive phase, natural selection weeding-out the rash idiocy which some demonstrate. Testosterone a major player in th poor old male brain leading lads to showing-off and feeling immortal as their numbers are thinned by accident and predictable failures.

  39. Last resort…
    Please can someone contact me regarding my order #100015119.

    14/11/2017
    Order placed
    18/11/2017
    Emailed explaining the faulty goods
    Received "Automated Response"
    21/11/2017
    Received second confirmation of order email (not sure why?)
    27/11/2017
    Emailed second time explaining I hadn't heard anything
    Received "Automated Response"
    30/11/2017
    Rang customer service and left a voicemail
    No response
    01/12/2017
    Sent third email
    Received "Automated Response" again

    Still no response after almost a month. This service is not good enough.
    Thanks, Steve

  40. Don't know if anyone has said it and I know I'm a week or so behind but how the hell can you 2 comment about Dans hair I mean seriously did you practice to get it that messed just for irony

  41. No mention of the differences between open backed, close backed and noise cancelling headphones?

    Not much point in attaching an annoying speaker or using tinny bone conducting headphones if you use open backed headphones that barely block out external noise.

  42. No to headphones for me, like to hear everything around me, and enjoy being out on my bike.Fortunately I live in a rural area, and I avoid towns unless I absolutely have to go there.Why shut yourself off from the environment, unless your environment is horrible, then yes good idea!

  43. 1. Does one ride one's bike differently, such that they increase their chance of being unpredictable to other traffic around them, if they have headphones in vs. no headphones?
    2. If there is no change, what scenarios would hearing be a benefit vs. only one's vision, to situational awareness?
    3. If there is no change, what scenarios would hearing be a detriment vs. only one's vision, to situational awareness?
    4. Given the answers to 2 and 3, which shows the greatest real world scenario danger to a cyclist?

    IME, 1. No
    2. Zero – Vision and Hearing are concordant to each other, neither helpful nor unhelpful but rather affirming continuously what the other is telling you for all things in one's field of vision which represents the majority of unintentional threats to a cyclists well being (animals darting out, cars pulling out/turning in front of you…etc.). The other scenario this could be helpful in is being able to hear approaching cars but if one always looks, which I always do, hearing isn't helpful, just concordant with my eyes as I've already mentioned.
    3. Not being able to hear is an advantage. The largest threat from behind is impatient road rage drivers. No amount of hearing will prevent someone from running into you from behind – simply put, you'll never know it's coming until you're already hit. The chances of an unintentional/uncontrollable collision from behind are very low, even for cars. That leaves the idiots who purposefully yell out windows/honk/overall obnoxious behavior which happens, by far, the most for any cyclist I'd wager. Filtering that out can mean the difference between being spooked and reacting, causing you to lose control of move enough to hit something/poor traction section, or continuing to ride smoothly without ever noticing the idiots.
    4. Answer three represents the greatest danger but not a significant one. So in conclusion, riding with or without headphones is no more "stupid" than the other. Just ride how you like.

  44. I have a mirror on my bike, so using headphones is not an issue. My IPOD has sound attenuation which matches the damping effect of the hermetically sealed cabin in a car. I can always hear car horns and panning my mirror helps for safety.

  45. AfterShockz Titaniums are perfect for riding. They use bone conduction so I can still hear everything around me and have an easy pause button to stop the music if I'm going through a busier street section. That said, I ride an ebike so I do cover my ears to reduce the sound from the wind. I'd rather just check an extra time visually than lose my hearing.

  46. I can’t focus on anything, homework, cycling, or working out in the gym without listening to music.

  47. I've just started cycling this past year, and I have significant hearing loss. If I hear a car engine I am not able to place if it's oncoming or behind me; but even then I don't even hear the car until it's a couple metres away – 2 or 3, and by that point I can't really do anything about it if it's behind me. So while I don't ride with plugs in, I can't imagine playing music would make it anymore dangerous for those of us with significant hearing lose vs no music.

  48. Recently, I saw a GCN show where you talked about a website that will generate a training program for you via A.I. Now, I can't find that GCN show or the website/company anywhere. Can you help?

  49. Hey guys,
    I'm 18 years old. Ive always been into cycling, but I would like to start cycling professionally, where do I start? Cheers! love the show, specially Matt

  50. The only absolute reason to hear sound on a bike is any possible bike issue or mishap behind you. Everything else can be seen in your 210 degree peripheral view. I've been riding for a very long time (maybe 10-15yrs) with headphonesearbuds in Los Angeles without issue. I find it a real motivator (fast electronic music usually) and time flies by. I ride confidently cautious and respect cars. Coming from mountain biking I always look down the road and far into my surroundings.

  51. I listen to GMBN and GCN in my headphones while riding.

  52. I do not listen to musik at all whith headphones if i listen i use speakers.
    For all day to day transportation I use my street style cyclocross Bike.
    And some time ago I became aware that i do not explicit look out for other cars when i turn into a street, i listen is there the noise of a car.
    Realy scary to become aware of that!
    What will happen if there are elektric cars or other calm vehicles like other cyclists?

  53. I'm not for and against. But you can get specific headphones made for cycling… https://www.standard.co.uk/shopping/esbest/health-fitness/cycling/the-best-cycle-safe-headphones-a3653736.html
    .

  54. Seven minutes in and I’m just delighted with how intelligent the debate becomes on GCN sometimes. It seems to me that cyclists (particularly road cyclists, it must be said), with their general tech-savviness and broadly scientific approach to their hobby, are a smart bunch I’m proud to be part of. Thanks for keeping it highbrow lads!

    Mind you, I never get tired of watching the range of interesting ways you all find to fall off bikes… you can’t be clever all the time right? 🙂

  55. if i see someone with headphones on a bike, i just push them in a ditch.
    we already have so many problem with pedestrians looking down or listening to music or on the phone completely unaware about their environment, not to mention they walk in the middle of the lane. no tech on the road !

  56. I enjoy riding with headphones, however where I live drivers aren't especially respectful to cyclists, so I find it helpful to use 1 headphone at a medium volume.

  57. I listen to podcasts and audiobooks. A great way to utilize your time and gather knowledge.

  58. xperia ear duo and easily you can listen music and everything all around you when cycling

  59. The socks bodge works – I'm excessively long-limbed and nothing affordable has long-enough arms. So a pair of old socks make fine sleeve-to-glove covers.

  60. no to headphones for the same reasons not to chat on a phone whilst driving, even if it is hands free. i have been in a couple of moderate collisions and one major collision causing a fractured collarbone for that very reason.

    in a society where multitasking is a great asset at work, it is of no value on the road. leave that stuff for astronauts and test drivers, and crash test dummies, but please please please… do not turn me into a red smear on the pavement because you like music or telephones

    ride safe first

  61. Its all about WHOS riding with headphones. Im 10× more aware of my surroundings with my earphones in. Before any maneuver i shoulder check and make sure im clear to do so, and i pretty much see everything before it even happens (as i normally do without headphones). Im just 10× more in my zone.

  62. Thank you, Graeme Obree. I now feel completely vindicated for the bar ends I put on my trekking bars, though I now fear I may not have been extreme *enough*.

  63. To be fair, I think headphones are fine for biking along long lonely country roads. However, it's a no go on crowded streets and heavy traffic areas. What I usually do is to play music over my phone speakers. This way I get some background music and still keep my attention on the road.

  64. I must admit that I did ride with EAR phones and now dispise of anyone who does. Reason being I was going past a tall fence I couldn't see through. It lead to a driveway where a car was pulling out and also lead to me nearly going over the bonnet. Luckily I swerved and survived but it's safe to say if I hadn't of done that I would have had at least a few broken bones. Please bear in mind I love music but I did have it on a respectable level and not too loud. I think it is the headset itself that causes the lack of hearing and the music just adds to the issue.

  65. As motorcyclists know ear plugs (mute headphones?) make you ride faster – while protecting your hearing (from wind/road noise) your perception of speed is less for any given speed so subconsciously you tend to ride faster – worked for me anyway when I was a ginger m'bike beginner. Haven't tried ear plugs on the (push)bike yet where the limiting factor is usually my legs – but perhaps it'd improve my descending…

  66. Another way to have music while you're riding a bike – sing or whistle ! Even better, sing as a choir while group riding !

  67. Definitely yes to headphones
    I use headphones all the time while cycling
    I use decent volume
    so i can hear a car coming by or car honking for example

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